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Xerxes

The Dudamel (I don't think I'll ever be able to switch to "Gustavo") backlash has begun! This is exactly what I needed to start my day. You're always on the pulse before anyone else. So how's this for feeding the frenzy: Brava Opera Chica! ;)

Rigoletto

Very well said, Opera Chic. The best that can happen to Dudamel is to have to listen to you and others who write in the same vein, instead of to all the sycophants. No matter how down to earth he tries to stay, all this hype is going to affect him; he's human.

Dudamel, oye lo que esta muchacha te está diciendo, que te conviene.

Ida Lopes

Brava, OC! But... what a picture of the wonderful night view of Rio de Janeiro and Guanabara bay has to do with Dudamel, LA Phil, Salonen, Zhang and Verdi Orchestra?

Claire

what! O.C. Anna is stil thin. I think shes stil hot in a size 8 way.

C'estMoi

I find it quite possible to be a fan of this type of music and yet to distance myself from any hype, marketing, or canonizing that gets in the way. I think it comes from learning to distance oneself on a daily basis from everything that is even more in our face, i.e. "pop."

I guess this is not as easy when you have a blog that you have to keep up to date, so, yes I predict OC will indeed get sick of 'Gustavo' as we go along.

siris

I drove past Disney Hall this morning and they've already blockaded the road to set up tents and chairs... Yes the whole circus thing is a little bit embarrassing... but it's nothing compared to the stupid Freyer Ring going on next door at the opera - that's the real "obama-nation"[uh-bom-uh-ney-shuh] of music...

the young Werther

Yeah, I also find a lot of the Dudamel hype a bit condescending. He's Latin American. Big deal. I honestly don't think he's gonna bring in that contingent and the hall will still be full of rich old people.

tempestrata

You can't deny that Dudamel makes music exciting. And that's what is important to lure in the new audiences. Not his race or color or ethnicity or nationality. To be honest, I'd rather watch Dudamel on the podium than some old guy in a tuxedo. And I'd be more willing to shell out my hard-earned cash.

Pickad

tempestrata, I hate that young people have to be "lured" into classical music. It's like tricking a little kid to go to the dentist. If it's not their thing, they should just go listen to Rap music or whatever it is that they like better. It's just amazing to me that everyone DOESN'T listen to classical. Personally, it's the only genre I can stomach.

LD

That video was ultra nauseating. The least they could have done was show him talking about something intelligent he plans to do during his tenure, however, long that may be.


The last video of Anna Netrebko posted here had her looking more than a size 8, closer to 12. Not that there's anything wrong with that (Jerry Seinfeld, et.al.)

titus

OC, could you please explain how is Italy a "undeniably sexist, racist country, by US standards"? Which are those standards?
Do they have a KKK in Italy? Or maybe they have, or had until recently, segregation laws?
Do they fingerprint foreigners at airports?
Do they ask for your race when applying for college?
And if Italy were such an "undeniably sexist, racist country", how could they hire an asian female conductor as Music Director of one of their orchestras?
And you, being an enlightened American woman, why do you live in such "undeniably sexist, racist, backwards-a$$" country?

Kevin Edmund Youkilis 4 MVP

The LAPhil ads are so condescending it hurts. And most Americans probably think he's Mexican anyway.

Linda Smith

The marketing people think they have to bring the arts to the level of current popular culture in order to attract "new" audiences. It's a shame, but it is happening with art museums as well as classical music institutions.
During a month long stay in Italy several years ago, I didn't find it any more sexist or racist than Baltimore, MD USA!

alejandra

That is one disturbing video...

Prompter1980

Pickad, I'm young and classical music and opera is one of the many types of music I love, but I agree that using words like 'lured' is getting annoying. Using words like that seems to be done in order to throw jabs at how classical music is "boring" and needs constant revitalizing, but in actuality, what it really does is paint those new audiences as vapid brainwashed sheep.

El Cajon

A year ago Obama was being hailed by some as a new Messiah. This year it's Duda. Wonder who will be the Annointed One in 2010? C'mon La Phil, get real. Gustavo is a better-than-average conductor. But he is a long way from becoming legendary.

As for Baltimore being a racist, sexist city, a reminder that the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra is led by "a gay Jewish conductor", who also happens to be a woman.

Soubrette

brava.

persnikitty

of COURSE opera chic loves Gustavo

Warren

Way to lay it out, OC. Unfortunately, sycophantic behavior has become far worse in our culture (than it used to be), and not just ours. Why are we so insecure? Hyper-prevalent sycophancy is a very unhealthy cultural sign.

Zany goofiness and colorful over-ecstatic gushing cheer have their place, to be sure, but all this clowning gives me a certain foreboding. I can't see Dudamel extracting the solemn, grinding chords of Siegfried's funeral music out of his vibrant new orchestra while he's jumping around gaily like this poster-boy latin super-puppet they're making him out to be, nor the strains of the slow movement of Beethoven's 7th. The dark grandeur of such great music is coming from a different sort of place, I'm afraid. I picture Klemperer's grim countenance, or Furtwangler's frowning, forlorn buzzard-ish shamanism.

Dudamel has got the talent, but this Lear-like fawning deference is going to undo him, think smiling jello pudding with a dash of sprightly (not good).


Barbara

Wait. This is LA we're discussing, right? Try to get a grip.
You're making me want to go down and have a look. Which is the idea.

Linda Smith

To El Cajon above,

My point (perhaps too subtle in tone), was not that Baltimore (where I've lived most of my life) is "racist" or "sexist" but that these things are to be found everywhere, though they may manifest themselves in different ways. Yes, we have a "gay jewish conductor who also happens to be a woman" but I'd like to add that her appointment was met with some resistance from members of the orchestra. I wonder how much of that was due to sexism? It's difficult to say but the fact that Ms. Alsop is the first woman to be appointed conductor of a major American orchestra would seem to suggest this. America has a long way to go in this regard.

Warren

Ida Lopes, it has to do with that humongous statue looming over Rio, in solemnic pain & opprobrium at her sins, in the foreground---it's the Messiah. I'll go out on a limb and say OC is doing image/word play with her title for this blog post 'Marketing the Messiah'.

El Cajon

So Joann Faletta is chopped liver? The BSO may be slightly more "major league" than the Buffalo Philharmonic but I think many people feel Ms. Faletta's appointment was more groundbreaking than was Alsop's coming to Baltimore. As for the resistance from the BSO, yes. Was it sexist? Quien sabe? Alsop has most definitely struck a good rapport with the BSO and Baltimore is no more racist or sexist, etc. than most other blue-collar cities in the U.S. Find me another city where John Waters would be an icon. Ok, maybe Pittsburgh....

Getting back to O.C.'s Duda post, which we've been commenting on, classical music is now just another "product" to be marketed. Youthful, attractive media-savvy celebs are an ever more important part of this machine, which chews these folks up and spits them out (c.f. Villazon). Will the CSO feel the need to have a concert at Grant Park with fireworks to welcome Muti when he becomes its MD next year? Given Muti's temperment, I don't think so. Olympics in Chicago? Who cares! They got Muti and, as O.C. might say, "you don't".

P.S. Has anyone else noted how O.C.'s posts have evolved. She's so on the cusp of the big, big time.

Diva in Training

Linda--the reason Ms. Alsop was met with some resistance from members of the orchestra is because they were still looking at possible contenders (or so they thought) when the announcement came that the position had been filled, much to the surprise (and perhaps dismay) of the orchestra. Sexism had nothing to do with it. In fact, "reverse" sexism might be have been one of the reasons that she was hired...it certainly garnered a great deal of attention from the media.

Bec

just forget the hype. He is cool, he is young, he is the future. And he is definitely gonna make it!

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